Xiao nRF54L15 wrong design for low power!

Feedback on XIAO nRF54L15 Power Design

I’ve been doing extensive low-power testing on the XIAO nRF54L15, and overall it’s a very impressive board—especially now that the nRF54L15 has Arduino support. It has the potential to be one of the best ultra-low-power platforms available.

However, I’ve run into a significant limitation related to the onboard voltage regulator.

The board uses the TPS62843, which is a high-quality step-down (buck) converter and works very well when VBAT is higher than 3.3V (e.g., LiPo scenarios). In that region, efficiency is excellent and current consumption is very low.

The issue appears when VBAT is around 3.3V—exactly the range used by coin-cell batteries. At this point, the regulator enters a near-dropout region, and current consumption increases significantly. Below 3.3V it improves slightly, but remains higher than expected for ultra-low-power applications.

This behaviour makes the current design difficult to use with coin cells or other low-voltage sources, where minimising quiescent current is critical.

Suggestions for Future Revisions

To make this already excellent board more flexible and suitable for ultra-low-power designs, I’d suggest:

  • Use an ultra-low quiescent current LDO instead of (or alongside) the buck

  • The antenna switch design is good, but adding solder jumpers or easier power gating would allow users to fully disable it when not needed

Buck converters are excellent for many scenarios, especially with higher input voltages. However, for ultra-low-power, low-voltage applications (like coin cells), they are not always the best choice—particularly near dropout.

Thanks for the great work so far—this board is very close to being ideal for ultra-low-power development.

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The SGM2040 used in nRF52840 would be a perfect replacement.

This is not a bashing on devs.. The work is amazing.. Just something I would love to see in the future.

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Hi there,

Amen , AMen, Preaching to the choir here, However I’m in the PMIC camp,
Have you looked at the reference design, The Vikings did for Seeed?

give that a gander :grin:

HTH
GL :slight_smile: PJ :v:

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Hi there,

So, The present XIAO nRF54L15 power choice is a TPS62843 buck regulator, and that part is a very good fit when the input is comfortably above 3.3 V. TI positions it as an ultra-low-IQ step-down converter for 1.8 V to 5.5 V input, with strong light-load efficiency.
But Yours and others , minne too, complaint is also valid: for coin-cell / near-rail sources, a buck-only board is not the ideal universal answer. A buck can only regulate downward; it cannot boost a sagging primary cell back up to 3.3 V. So once you are designing around CR2032-class or other low-voltage primary cells, you are in a different regime than “LiPo into a 3.3 V rail.” That is exactly the problem Nordic is targeting with the nPM2100, which they market specifically as a PMIC for primary-cell batteries with an ultra-efficient boost regulator, ship/hibernate modes, and fuel gauging.

Agree:
the SGM2040 is also reasonable. The XIAO nRF52840 schematic shows an SGM2040-3.3 regulator, and the SGM2040 itself is a very low-IQ LDO with about 1 µA typical quiescent current and low dropout. For low-current designs near 3.3 V, that can be a better behavioral match than a buck stage that is being asked to live close to dropout. PMIC again ..

HTH
GL :slight_smile: PJ :v:

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Thank you for the reply! I am happy others feel the same way.

Also, I’ve never heard of nPM2100, but looking at the specs, it sound amazing! I am tempted now do create my own, since both IC are in stock in JLCPCB(no advertising intended).

I will wait now for a nRF54L15 module I’ve ordered, so I can test different programmers chips (like the Raspberry Pi Pico, and after i will create a board with both nPM2100 and SGM2040 to perform tests on it.

Regards, Loren

Hi there,

Absolutely , and the Link has the schematics and board stuff too, they built this for SEEED to show how the Power Management IC could improve the design, No worries about JLPCB either I used Easy EDA for all of them,they have a parts list that is off the chain, if you look on here I have many boards made and shipped successfully with XIAO in the driver seat :grin: maybe one or two that are just grove accessories. My hope is the 15L and roomerd:man_detective: 20M :backhand_index_pointing_left: will be the Lowest power and best Xiao for battery powered devices. Those Seeedineers are pretty crafty , so I would expect GOOD things to come. :shushing_face:

HTH

GL :slight_smile: PJ :v:

Ps ,You can order one of the test boards above for yourself too from JLPCB the info is in the links. BTW - for Less than what a MOthrFOkn Can of Coffee (stupidity that is tariffs) costs. The BLE implementation alone is worth it, the code included is very sleek and works better than any I have seen to date. shipping current 15-45 na. :money_bag: Vikings RULE :sign_of_the_horns:

100uA wasted just to use the radio? that’s realtively huge, no? a variant without the RF switch would have been great