I guess I didn’t say that as clearly as I could. I loaded the libraries for method 1, tested that, found it didn’t work. Then i deleted the libraries from method 1, loaded the libraries from method 2, and found it didn’t even compile for my board (i think it was due to a broken definition). After that i deleted the method 2 libraries, loaded the method 1 libraries, turned on debugging, Googled it, THEN i posted here.