Conflicting battery info for xiao-nrf52840 as well as xiao-esp32-s3. info needed

I am trying to design/deploy temperature sensors to each room of a non-profit retreat center. I’ve settled on LoraWan for networking and I am prototyping with the xiao nrf and xiao esp32s3 boards plus the seeed sx1262 addons to handle the network.

I understand little about electronics although I am very handy with a soldering iron. My background is software development.

My nodes need to be battery powered. they will take readings via a thermistor every 15 minutes and send that info back to the gateway. The readings are working great and now I need to figure out the battery power aspect of things.

Searching the web I see conflicting info about soldering directly to the BAT pads on the xiao’s and I don’t have he knowledge to understand what to do.

I’ve been advised to go with an 18650 wired to the bat pads and that it will all work out fine. I’ve also been told that I could wire traditional AA’s to the 3V and ground pins and I’d be fine, My power usage should be very small (I am driving the thermistor/voltage divider circuit from a GPIO pin, so only draws power during read). Recharging 100 units with 18650’s seems like a big ask for the volunteer staff so std AA’s might be better.

Questions:

  1. where do I solder the batteries to if I go with a reputable 18650
  2. where would I solder to if I go with std AA’s and how many/do I need a boost converter would I need?

Sorry for being so clueless. I saw a big scary warning about the xiao’s lack of safety when charging attached lipo’s and now am a bit of a wreck.

Nice project!

Just a few questions.

  1. Are there sensor size and/or access limitations?
  2. What is the overall distance from sensor to gateway?

A good set of AA’s is a nice (cost effective) solution. I would recommend a means to manage the voltage however.

I tend to use rechargeable AA’s and have banks of chargers for when batteries are swapped out. Access is easy(ish) but power consumption is (potentially) quite high. Customers require some level of “green”, hence recharge.

I am hoping to keep things at or under the size of a pack of cigarettes. They will be affixed to the room doors for various reasons. It would be a big pain point to have to visit each room / have a charger hooked up for over an hour… originally was going to attach battery component with jst connector to the xiao for ease of replacing batteries. Don’t really know where to go from here. Charging in place will be a pain point and having a bank of chargers will be a pain point since the nodes should only need recharging once a year.

Temps are only sent to the gateway once every fifteen minutes and the thermistor circuit is being driven by gpio power so it only uses power for a few seconds while being read.

Since the power consumption is very low, the LiPo route may be the simplest, ie just using the VBat connection on the XIAO. The actual battery size (mAh) would depend on your budget.
JST connection is “neatest” and you could get a battery with mating connector.
Thermistor could be wired to GND and an analog input using internal pullup (requires temperature calibration initially). No need for a PCB :slight_smile: