I also discovered a nice to do on how to program custom firmware on documentation of the LoRa-E5 wiki devkit version containing a LoRa-E5.
Would have been nice to have this link also on LoRa-E5 product.
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Thank you for sharing~
Hi, @acutetech we have post a guide of How To Develop with STM32Cube MCU Package, please check here: https://wiki.seeedstudio.com/LoRa_E5_mini/#2-develop-with-stm32cube-mcu-package and the source code of the example is in our github: https://github.com/seeed-lora/LoRa-E5-LoRaWAN-End-Node
Thanks!
Thanks Jerry. I have found the radio_board_if.c & .h files. I think there might be an error relating to selecting the chip’s two RF output pins.
In the .c file the RBI_ConfigRFSwitch() code has code for 4 cases, including different settings for RBI_SWITCH_RFO_LP and RBI_SWITCH_RFO_HP - which suggests to me that the hardware can switch either the RFO_LP or the RFO_HP pins on the chip.
However the .h file has this (two defines for the same thing):
#define RBI_CONF_RFO RBI_CONF_RFO_LP_HP
#define RBI_CONF_RFO RBI_CONF_RFO_HP
I think the second of these should be deleted. Otherwise the value RBI_CONF_RFO_HP tells radio_driver.c that only the RFO_HP pin is available, whereas radio_board_if.c says that both pins are available. Also, you get a compiler warning “warning: “RBI_CONF_RFO” redefined”
Please check this and tell me what I should change.
Can you supply the circuit diagram, so I and others can see for ourselves?
I’m running STM32 CubeProgrammer, but I cannot connect successfully to the LoRa-E5 Dev Board (nor the LoRa-E5 mini) to reprogram it.
I’m running on Mac OS (Big Sur), and have the board in DFU mode (it sends a byte sequence every second to the serial port), but it errors out.
19:50:46:249 : Timeout error occured while waiting for acknowledgement.
19:50:46:250 : No response from target received
19:50:46:250 : byte 0x7F sent successfully to target
19:50:46:343 : Wait ends after 1 loop, dataready = 0, delay = 105
19:50:46:343 : Timeout error occured while waiting for acknowledgement.
19:50:46:343 : No response from target received
19:50:46:343 : Error: Activating device: KO. Please, verify the boot mode configuration and check the serial port configuration. Reset your device then try again…
Is there a particular timing trick to this?
Also, I recognize that doing this will purge the existing firmware and AT command functionality. I am somewhat disappointed in this as there seems to be nothing really equivalent to replace it with if one was to want similar functionality in the future.
Did you see this, which I posted above? [quote=“acutetech, post:1, topic:257491”]
It appears that BOOT (PB13) must be pulled low when the board is powered on or it will not be
detected by the STM32CubeProgrammer software.
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As far as the AT program is concerned, it would be good if Seeed made the source code available, so you could restore it. That said, ST provides the source of an AT program as part of the STM23WL support package. It runs on their Nucleo board so you will have to make changes for the LoRa-E5.
Yes, I was able to get the device into DFU mode, what I can’t do is get it to properly communicate. I suspect their is a problem with initializing the serial port on Mac OS.
I’m not convinced the port is initialized correctly. (I tried the command line tool as well).
I was able to connect to the device on the Mac and communicate with AT commands, that worked without issue.
I may have to jump through some serious hoops to get this working, all my machines are Macs, unless the toolset can run on the Rpi. (Maybe just to load the replacement firmware).
I had issues getting the STM32 tools installed as well, but I worked past those issues and the tools seemed fine once running.
Not inherently seeeds problem.
Not sure I understand your problem: whether it is a problem while programming the LoRa-E5, or whether it is with serial comms after it has been programmed. In case it the the latter problem: ST’s sample LoRaWAN code uses USART2 on PA2 and PA3, whereas Seeed’s AT program uses USART1 on PB6 and PB7. Unless Seeed have changed this in their LoRaWAN node port then I advise you to use PA2, PA3, as it will be non-trivial to change to USART1.
Simply put I can’t reprogram the device.
I get the device itself into the proper mode, and the STM32 Programmer software attempts to communicate and then it fails to work.
I’ve even tried the command line version of the tool.
If I get a chance tonight I’ll be trying a couple different computers to do it.
I’ve posted on the community forums at ST. I’ve received no response.
I’ve tried each of the serial ports on the LoRa-E5 development board, and the best I was able to do was get the same serial uart results as I get over USB.
I’ve installed/updated the drivers for the USB to serial/CP2104 and that got me to the same place.
The connectivity seems to work, but it won’t actually program the device.
Unfortunately unless there’s a new development I’m going to have to switch my project to better supported hardware.
Things I need:
Useable point to point. The current AT command set is all in on LoRaWAN, but that excludes the possibility of handling a point to point which I need (or my costs skyrocket) until the project justifies multiple gateways. The TEST mode point to point is a kludge.
Ability to restore AT command set. I bought the loRa-e5 development board to do development on the board, I didn’t realize doing so would cause me to lose functionality. It’s a one-way process. (I would be fine with having to restore a binary blob to gain that functionality again.)
Basically, if I build a proof of concept that utilizes the LoRA-E5 Dev board and we don’t proceed with a custom build I can’t just switch it back to the AT command set and use it, I’ll end up tossing it in the junk drawer and having to use another device for development. This is particularly disappointing with this board, as it has the connectors broken out to be used, but the only way to use them is to drop the AT command set.
I have one last attempt at using the systems I have to update the firmware on the board, I’ll be trying to get Linux running and use that version of the STM32 Programmer to update the board, unfortunately I don’t hold out much hope for that on the systems I have. (2 intel Macs, and the rest of my systems are ARM based).
Seeed isn’t responsible for the lack of support on Mac (and I’ll even concede Apples made it a little difficult in the last couple years for tools like this anyway), but I don’t have a budget to burn and need to work with what I’ve got.
Seeed should work out the licensing issue with the AT command set (if that’s what it is), to at least allow restoring the firmware.
I’d recommend updating it to have a supported point to point mode built in as well.
(I fundamentally disagree with the general community being completely antagonistic to point-to-point. I can turn around and buy devices for the same frequency band that cause worse interference than a few point to point LoRa links ever will and still be 100% compliant).
By my estimates there’s 5 gateways on public networks in my city, 4 of which are all within 500 meters of each other, and absolutely none in locations which benefit me. I can’t justify buying a gateway for a one-off device that’s outside of a pre-existing gateway area. While I have a gateway on order for my specific location, I expect to have a half dozen devices in use here.
(I intend to have a weather station installed at a location that is well outside of range of any pre-existing gateway. I can locate a second LoRa node device there as a point to point receiver, but a Gateway is simply overkill).
Instead I’ll have to reevaluate if I should be using some other base hardware.
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I have determined experimentally that the second of the two defines is correct. Otherwise the uplink RSSI is very poor. I have filed a bug report here: https://github.com/seeed-lora/LoRa-E5-LoRaWAN-End-Node/issues/3
As I have noted before, it would be much better if Seeed would trust its users and publish circuit diagrams, which would allow such confusion to be cleared up quickly.
Im also struggling with this one. Ive managed to program the LoRa-E5 mini dev board using an ST-Link via SWD and have loaded on the given Seeed modified example code: LoRaWAN_End_Node. This firmware works and is able to send uplinks no problem. This was thanks to @acutetech whose post was my savior.
However, Im now not able to get the STM32CUBEProgrammer to connect to the device. I see:
Error: Problem occured while trying to connect
I suspect that without the Seeed provided bootloader Im now not able to get it into DFU mode.
From what Ive read it seems that the Lora E5 module doesnt have a pinout for the STM32s BOOT0 so Im wondering how I might get it into system boot mode?
Does this mean I might have bricked this poor little dev board?
Any insight would be much appreciated
Solved it after some trial and error.
Turns out the third party ST Link V2 I have, has to be unplugged and replugged into the USB which presumably puts it into the correct mode. Then, holding down the RST button on the Lora E5 Mini dev board, clicking Connect on the STM32CUBEProgrammer software and releasing the RST button, allows the board to be detected and programmed every time.
This is on a macbook pro running Big Sur (11.2.3) using a Yootech USB-C to USB adaptor. The Lora E5 Mini is also connected via USB with an Arduino Serial Monitor open to view its output. The dev board is wired up according these instructions: https://wiki.seeedstudio.com/LoRa_E5_mini/#2-develop-with-stm32cube-mcu-package
Now to actually write some code for it!
Hi @cmydlarz
Which third party ST Link V2 you are using?
Can you suggest any which is compatible with LoRa-E5?
I use this one: Aideepen ST-Link V2 Programming… https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J7N3RE6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Which as mentioned is a bit finicky but can program the Lora E5 mini dev board. I’ve not tried any other programmers so my experience is limited.
I am having issue in getting the ST-Link/V2 programmer to connect to the LoRa-E5-Mini. I am using Windows PC, STM32 Cube Programmer and IDE.
I am using ST-Link/V2 to program LoRa-E5 mini. I connected the ST-Link/V2 programmer as follows, using the 20 pin connector of the programmer, pin 9 (SDIO) to LoRa-E5 SDIO, Pin 7 (SWCLK) to LoRa-E5 SWCLK. Pin 6 (GND) to LoRA-E5 GND. I am using the USB port connected to my Windows PC to power the LoRA-E5 mini module.
It would be great if there were a concise step by step to make this work.
From what I see in the posts, I should do the following:
- Before applying power to Lora-E5 module, Connect PB13 to GND
- Connect STLink/V2 to PC USB port
- Start STCubeProgrammer
- Connect Lor-E5-Mini to PC USB port (For power)
- Press and hold the LoRa-E5-Mini RESET Button.
- Click ‘Connect’ on STCube Programmer
- Release LoRA-E5-Min Reset button.
I tried the above repetitively and virtually all combinations, and yet cannot get connection - log below. Clearly I am doing something wrong, and is likely obvious. Help please. A nice step by step guide would be great, thank you!
09:24:22 : ST-LINK SN : 37FF6F064243393027222057
09:24:22 : ST-LINK FW : V2J37S7
09:24:22 : Board : –
09:24:22 : Voltage : 1.56V
09:24:23 : Error: ST-LINK error (DEV_TARGET_CMD_ERR)
09:24:28 : ST-LINK SN : 37FF6F064243393027222057
09:24:28 : ST-LINK FW : V2J37S7
09:24:28 : Board : –
09:24:28 : Voltage : 0.53V
09:24:28 : Error: No STM32 target found!
09:24:33 : ST-LINK SN : 37FF6F064243393027222057
09:24:33 : ST-LINK FW : V2J37S7
09:24:33 : Board : –
09:24:33 : Voltage : 1.56V
09:24:35 : Error: ST-LINK error (DEV_TARGET_CMD_ERR)
I should also add the the AT application is still working fine, so the hardware appears to be good.
Problem solved:
- Connect ST-Link/V2 programmer as follows:
- CN3 Pin 1 to Lora-E5 3V3
- CN3 Pin 7 to Lora-E5 SWDIO
- CN3 Pin 9 to Lora-E5 SWCLK
- CN3 Pin 19 to Lora-E5 SCK
- CN3 Pin 8 to Lra-E5 GND
- Connect ST-Link/V2 programmer to USB port
- Connect Lora-E5 to USB port
- Press and hold the RST button on the Lora-E5 module
- Click on the ‘Connect’ button on the ST-Cube Programmer
- Release the RST button on the Lora-E5 module. ST-Cube Program should now indicate ‘connected’.
- In St-Cube Programmer, select the ‘OB’ menu.
- Change Read Out Protection from BB to AA and apply it.
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I hope this video’s to connect and program wl55jc, B-L072z and L476RG STM32 boards can be helpful:
Good luck.
