Yea, Your on the bus with the rest of us SMH…
GL :-p
As far as the schematic shows, the battery terminal is not connected to any port.
Hence the Voltage divider youtube video :-), either intentional?(without explanation) or a HUGE, GIGANTIC fail by whomever at Seeed Engineering.
SMH ;-p
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Just what I was looking for, this sounds great, any idea how much power it would draw, hence reducing battery life? Any way to prevent/decrease loss. I’ve seen similar diagrams 45k and 100k resistors (different multipliers) which would be more efficient, decreasing power draw. Any chance the -C6 version corrects this and uses a pin to monitor directly?
Using two 100k resistors will result in a current of ca I = U / R = 3.7 V / (2 x 100 kOhm) = 18.5 micro A.
So I would rather use 1 MOhm resistors.
Good morning,
Having only 1M resistance on hand, I would like to test what you suggest. Should I change the sample code?
Sorry I’m not very strong in electronics, I’m more of a developer.
THANKS
The code needs to stay the same. As long both of the two resistors are the same, the voltage will be divided in half.
Thank you, I have the impression that the measurement is not precise on the other hand, I do not have the same value at all as that measured with a multimeter.
One source of inaccuracy is the tolerance of the resistors. A typical tolerance would be 5%. Say in the worst case one resistor is off from its nominal value by +5%, and the other is off by -5%.
Then the voltage result you get will be off by 5% as well:
V_pin = V_true * R_2 / (R_1 + R_2)
R_1 = R_nominal + 5% = R_nominal * 1.05
R_2 = R_nominal - 5% = R_nominal * 0.95
V_pin = V_true * 0.95 / 2
V_result = 2 * V_pin = 0.95 * V_true
Thank you for all those informations.
However, I don’t know how but I feel like I burned my board. it must surely be the 3V3 regulator, the card is no longer recognized when it is plugged in via usb and the 3V3 pin is at 0V.
Thanks for the technique. I am using this and it works wonderfully. I have a concern though:
My max measurement is around 4.2V on full charge, which is as expected. However, my lowest measurement could go all the way down to 2.8V (or may be further), which I believe may damage lithium batteries.
Doesn’t the xiao esp32c ldo have a cut off value that is safe for lithium batteries? If not, how could I enforce this in HW?
The easiest way would be to use a battery with a protection circuit. Both over-discharge and over-charge should be protected.
Anyone had any luck or solution reading battery voltage via grove shield? https://www.seeedstudio.com/Grove-Shield-for-Seeeduino-XIAO-p-4621.html
I have examined the schematic and it does not seem to include a function to read the battery voltage. The battery terminal voltage must be resistively divided and connected to the XIAO port for AD conversion.
(The battery pad on the back of the XIAO is not connected to this Grove-Shield.)
Have you found anything interesting about this? i am planning on connecting a bare 18650 battery without protection and if what you mention is correct it is not safe…
If you use A0/D0 (GPIO2) to monitor battery voltage, you may not be able to upload your sketch. See the link below for details.
“XIAO ESP32C3, unable to upload sketch or re-write bootloader - #18 by msfujino”
Hi, I hope someone could help me with the problem I encountered. I am using XIAO SP32C3 together with BMP280 sensor in my product. The code and hardware are pretty simple, basically driving two LEDs depending on the pressure. It all worked well, until today I added this code for checking the battery voltage. The battery code works well, but the BMP280 stopped sending the parameters to the serial monitor, and I’m just getting NAN instead. I just added the voltage divider, two 220K resistors as suggested and I also added 3 colored LEDs to the free pins A1, A2 and A3, which wee previously unused, so in fact I haven’t changed anything, just added the above. If I upload previous code without the battery check part, BMP works without problems. So I wanted to ask if there may be some known issue with using both ADC and I2C, or something like that?
I would really like to be able to use the battery check part. I have 150 boards and this XIAO board really has some weird solutions, like almost no indication, charging current of 350mA which is pretty scary considering I’m using LiPo poach battery 150mAh and I’d really prefer if they don’t start exploding once delivered to users, etc. I’ve been using nRF52840, but decided to switch to ESP, frankly mostly because of the price, because any board would do, providing it has a charging capability, and that’s where I haven’t been careful enough. The battery does have some kind of protection circuit, consisting of 8205A and something called G3JS, but I don’t know if that’s sufficient enough, so if anybody knows more, I’d appreciate any help, with this and the problem above.
Cheers,
Miso
Hi Mishko959,
I wrote a proper sketch and tried it, it worked fine on 3.7V battery power.
If you give me your sketch, I can try to run the same configuration with battery voltage check, BMP280 and LEDs at the same time. You can direct mail me instead of posting it.
Battery voltage measurement can be used with A0 with some ingenuity, but I would recommend using A2 which is not a strap pin. Please also refer to the following link.
‘XIAO ESP32C3, unable to upload sketch or re-write bootloader - #18 by msfujino’
The charge current of the nRF52840 is 50mA or 100mA in the configuration, while the charge current of the ESP32C3 is 370mA. The link below has the results of my measurements. However, if there is some kind of overcurrent protection on the battery side, it should be protected. The 8205A you mention seems to have overcharge detection, but G3JS doesn’t have a datasheet so I don’t know if it can be used. I would recommend that you actually measure the charging current.
‘Charging characteristics of XIAO_nRF52840 and XIAO_ESP32C3’
Hi msfujino,
Thank you for the prompt reply. And I’ll only be happy to send you the code, of course. Where can I find your email address, in your profile? I’m a total newbie here, and haven’t even looked around properly so far.
Your code seemed spot on to me, though, and unless it was just some kind of coincidence, it was showing the correct voltage to the second decimal place. I took a brand new battery from the package, and checked the voltage before I attached it to the circuit, and it was around 3.8V, which is the same result I’ve got from your code. I used the standard resistors, because I don’t have any with tighter tolerance, although I did measure a number of them to select two with as equal resistance as possible. In fact, the only problem was that everything else stopped working, your code was working flawlessly. Now that I changed V0 to V2, though, it’s sending totally random values, although the actual voltage is the same as before.
I’ve read all the stuff from your links when I first visited this forum, and saved and checked your image about charging characteristics. I thing I have datasheets of both components, although I need to find the one for G3JS. If I find it, I can email you both.
Last time I visited this site, I stumbled upon some kind of XIAO dedicated page and there the charging current of ESPC3 was 350mA, not 370. I guess the designer of this board sobered a bit, and tried to tone down that epic choice of parameter a little 
I had other problems with this board today. The upload ended with fatal error a couple of times, with the message about lost connection, and I was using two boards, so it was not a malfunction of just one of them. I’ve read somewhere on this forum if I recall correctly, that I should always reboot by using both buttons in sequence before the upload, but I mostly did not do that and everything worked anyway, and then failed exactly after I did. So all in all, this board seems kind of inconsistent, at least in comparison with other XIAO boards, as much as I can say, although I’m far from being any kind of authority when it comes to programming…
OK, thanks again, I’ll try to find your email address here, and send you the code and datasheets, and if it can’t be found, you can PM me, or however it’s done around here.
Cheers,
Miso
When running on battery power without a PC, if there is a while(!Serial) in the sketch, it waits for the serial monitor and does not work forever.
Did you change the wiring to A0 to A2, and did you change the ADC input pin from A0 to A2 in the sketch?
The charge controller is an ETA4054, and the calculated value is 360mA with the set resistance R22=2.7k in the schematic, and the measured value is 370mA.
The solution to the problem of not being able to upload is on the ESP32C3 wiki.
For direct mail, click on my icon and then click on the message symbol and you will be able to write an email. But for anyone else having the same problem, I think it would be better to post it here.
edit:
I charged a 220mAh battery with built-in protection circuit as a test. The battery is charged at 370mA from XIAO. It seems that the protection circuit does not have a function to suppress the charging current to a safe value, and it is necessary to limit it on the charging circuit side.
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