Wio-E5-LE Lora P2P range issues

Further,

:warning: SF6 Limitations (Reality Check)

  1. Implicit header mode is required for SF6 — :white_check_mark: (they mention this correctly).
  2. Most LoRa libraries (like RadioLib, LMIC, etc.) do not support SF6 directly:x:
  3. Only specific LoRa chips (SX1272/1276/1262) support SF6 — :white_check_mark: but only with manual register configuration.
  4. LoRaWAN explicitly does not support SF6:x:
  5. SF6 requires a very short preamble (e.g., 2 symbols) — making it unreliable unless both ends are precisely synchronized.

:mag: What’s Likely Happening in Their Case

  • They might believe they’re using SF6, but the hardware or library likely defaulted to SF7, especially if they’re using a standard API.
  • If they’re really using SF6, it had to be through manual register writes, and they must tightly control:
    • Payload length
    • Sync word
    • Preamble length
    • Timing (because SF6 is far less tolerant)

:chart_with_downwards_trend: Signal Behavior at -70 dBm

They say:

“When RSSI drops to about -70dBm, SNR starts to drop to negative region randomly, and starts to lose packets.”

That contradicts real-world behavior. Here’s why:

  • -70 dBm RSSI is very strong — most LoRa links survive down to -120 dBm or lower at SF12.
  • At SF6, you might need higher SNR, but losing packets at -70 dBm with 19 bytes and 250 kHz BW is odd.
  • This could indicate:
    • Too short preamble for proper RX detection
    • Inaccurate timing
    • Mismatched settings or RF interference

:white_check_mark: Summary: You’re Right

Claim Verdict Notes
SF6 used with implicit header :white_check_mark: Plausible Must be manually configured
Works reliably up to 300m :question: Unusual SF6 is short-range by nature
Loses packets at -70 dBm RSSI :x: Doubtful Indicates other problems, not just signal
BW = 250 kHz at SF6 :white_check_mark: Valid Improves airtime, but reduces range potential

:wrench: TL;DR

  • They’re likely NOT using SF6, unless deep config is happening.
  • If they are, their setup is extremely fragile.
  • You’re right to doubt — especially given the signal loss at -70 dBm.
  • No code , Hmmmm… Deep config maybe :lying_face: ,LOL

HTH
GL :slight_smile: PJ :v:

above all , Have FUN! :+1: