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Call 4 Inputs for our New Lipo Rider Plus Plus

Post by nicho810 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:36 am

Hey Community,

This is Nicho, Product Manager at Seeed. You might notice that we've just released our new Lipo Rider Plus, a Lipo battery charger/a power supply/a booster yesterday. It supports up to 5V2A charging current, boost output integration, output up to 5V2.4A, and it also provided 3.3V 250mA OUTPUT.

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https://www.seeedstudio.com/Lipo-Rider-Plus-p-4204.html

With the help of Lipo Rider Plus, you can input a 3.7V lipo battery, and output up to 5V/2.4A via the USB Type-A port. With the on-board switch, you can control the ON/OFF of USB port easily. Meanwhile, threre are also full function pin headers onboard, which can output 3.3V/250mA as well. Since there is only one JST2.0 port, it is almost half the size of LiPo Rider Pro and Lipo Rider v1.3, which makes it much easier to mount it to any project in various scenarios.

And now comes the more important thing. We're currently working on a upgraded version of Lipo Rider Plus. We want to call it Lipo Rider Plus Plus (not finalized yet, the name might be changed), and we would love to have your inputs and expectations for the new version. It would be really appreciated if you could feedback in the forum on the following questions.

1) Any suggestion for the output?
2) Apart from the lipo battery, which other kinds of batteries that you would love to see that Lipo Rider Plus Plus will support?
3) Any other features that you would love to add to the Lipo Rider Plus Plus?
4) There're many lipo chargers or riders in the market. Is there any scenarios/ functions/features that you're still looking for?


Last but not least, you're always welcome to let us know if you have other inputs for the Lipo Rider Plus Plus. For example, the pricing, and even the name for the product.

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Re: Call 4 Inputs for our New Lipo Rider Plus Plus

Post by tim95anthony » Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:25 am

Hi Seeed Product Team,
Thank you for your amazing work as always! I am very excited to hear about your new LiPo Rider Plus since I sometimes use LiPo batteries to drive my maker projects when I am outside and when there is no access to main power supply. I already own your other two LiPo Riders and currently using them. I think your LiPo Rider Plus will allow me to drive a Raspberry Pi because of it's amazing 2.4A output and I am really excited about this! I can see that you have done some compromises to make the board smaller by getting rid of the JST connector for solar panel input and I think it can be advantageous for some people and not advantageuos for other people. But for me, I love the smaller size since it will come in handy to use.

As you mentioned, I am happy that you guys are working on another LiPo Rider,which eventually will be even better than this. I would like to suggest a name for it. Maybe......"LiPo Rider Extreme" and make it the true shining star!

Now, I would like to give my feedback on the questions asked.

1) I think maybe increase the output current even more (5V/3A)? This will suit the above product name for sure :)
2) I would love to see support for Lithium-Ion batteries since they are much cheaper and has more charge density than LiPo batteries. But they both have their own advantages and disadvantages in the end.
3) I would love this LiPo Rider to output my real time charge status of the connected battery so that I can always check how much battery is left.
4) I would love this LiPo Rider Extreme to be a real competitor in the market with a competitive price so that I can also buy one for myself in the end :)

I hope my answers will help you dive into more insights while developing a newer version of the LiPo Rider!
Thank you.

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Re: Call 4 Inputs for our New Lipo Rider Plus Plus

Post by yokonav » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:35 am

I would say the upgraded version a "Lipo Rider Ultra". I would like to see:
1. 3V
2. Protection circuit
3. Reasonable price
4. Headers to power breadboard or other microcontrollers

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Re: Call 4 Inputs for our New Lipo Rider Plus Plus

Post by nicho810 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:21 pm

yokonav wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:35 am
I would say the upgraded version a "Lipo Rider Ultra". I would like to see:
1. 3V
2. Protection circuit
3. Reasonable price
4. Headers to power breadboard or other microcontrollers
Thank you very much for your suggestion~ It is true that this version is not good enough for the fit of the breadboard.. This will help us improve this product! .

Currently this version supports 3.3V output. We have built a LDO(xc6206p332mr) to implement this function, but currently it can only supply 250ma current. For the next version, I think that we can continue to enhance this output capability for more scenes.

The USB output jack of this version is short-circuit protected. We have tried the reverse battery and there is no explosion :lol: , and everything works fine after recovery.

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Re: Call 4 Inputs for our New Lipo Rider Plus Plus

Post by nicho810 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:28 pm

tim95anthony wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:25 am
Hi Seeed Product Team,
Thank you for your amazing work as always! I am very excited to hear about your new LiPo Rider Plus since I sometimes use LiPo batteries to drive my maker projects when I am outside and when there is no access to main power supply. I already own your other two LiPo Riders and currently using them. I think your LiPo Rider Plus will allow me to drive a Raspberry Pi because of it's amazing 2.4A output and I am really excited about this! I can see that you have done some compromises to make the board smaller by getting rid of the JST connector for solar panel input and I think it can be advantageous for some people and not advantageuos for other people. But for me, I love the smaller size since it will come in handy to use.

As you mentioned, I am happy that you guys are working on another LiPo Rider,which eventually will be even better than this. I would like to suggest a name for it. Maybe......"LiPo Rider Extreme" and make it the true shining star!

Now, I would like to give my feedback on the questions asked.

1) I think maybe increase the output current even more (5V/3A)? This will suit the above product name for sure :)
2) I would love to see support for Lithium-Ion batteries since they are much cheaper and has more charge density than LiPo batteries. But they both have their own advantages and disadvantages in the end.
3) I would love this LiPo Rider to output my real time charge status of the connected battery so that I can always check how much battery is left.
4) I would love this LiPo Rider Extreme to be a real competitor in the market with a competitive price so that I can also buy one for myself in the end :)

I hope my answers will help you dive into more insights while developing a newer version of the LiPo Rider!
Thank you.
We may add a stronger solution for larger power solar panels in the next version, and support multiple types of batteries, this consideration also comes from our actual outdoor scene project needs. I hope the next version can help you more in your project, thank you very much again for your suggestions~~

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Re: Call 4 Inputs for our New Lipo Rider Plus Plus

Post by mschafer » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:45 am

I'd like 3.3V with enough current to support the E32 Wrover boards and a grove peripheral or two.
The 18650 lipo is a useful size. I've always wanted either a built in holder, or the ability to charge two of them in parallel at the same time.
If more lipo form factors were supported, like the little flat packs, that would be great too..

As we're asking for the moon - the ability to charge these batteries from a solar input would be super useful for in-the-field mesh networks. Using the batteries for primary current drain and the solar to recharge. You can see why I want a couple in parallel for long term use.

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Re: Call 4 Inputs for our New Lipo Rider Plus Plus

Post by avaldebe » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:54 pm

Need to see the schematic before I can make sugestions

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Re: Call 4 Inputs for our New Lipo Rider Plus Plus

Post by bill.yu » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:15 am

Hi there~

Here is the schematic. https://github.com/SeeedDocument/Lipo-R ... %26PCB.zip thanks.

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Re: Call 4 Inputs for our New Lipo Rider Plus Plus

Post by nicho810 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:51 am

mschafer wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:45 am
I'd like 3.3V with enough current to support the E32 Wrover boards and a grove peripheral or two.
The 18650 lipo is a useful size. I've always wanted either a built in holder, or the ability to charge two of them in parallel at the same time.
If more lipo form factors were supported, like the little flat packs, that would be great too..

As we're asking for the moon - the ability to charge these batteries from a solar input would be super useful for in-the-field mesh networks. Using the batteries for primary current drain and the solar to recharge. You can see why I want a couple in parallel for long term use.
Thanks for your input, Multi-cell lipo battery charging usually requires a dedicated balanced charging circuit, and we are trying to find a more versatile and efficient way to solve this. a new Lipo Rider with much powerful solar charging circuit is in the schedule,we look forward to your suggestions on power and functionality about the solar charging circuit~. ;) ;) :D

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